Tell me what posts one is reading...

And I will tell you what one's marketing plan missed :-}

Well, Leopard came out. It may have solved some of the SWT/AWT problems that DevRiot was experiencing on OS X. I need to get back to it later. Some people got really upset that Java 6 is not included or better java support on OS X is demanded.

It is understandable but things should get less emotional.

After all, not long ago Apple was in the doldrums. It certainly came back but it is behind every big player in the Java world. And it is not going to let IBM or Sun have a piece of the Apple pie out of goodwill.

There are a lot more Java/IBM developers than OS X developers. That in itself is a major threat.

Well, I am going back to .Net and make sure DevRiot does not choke when several instances of Visual Studio are up and running...

So far so good...

We are in the final test-debug stages. The process is going well with no surprises.

As mentioned before we are going to leave array, Virtual Hardware, and Swing support out of the beta.

We wanted to concentrate on the depth of the functionality rather than the breadth of the functionality, which will come later.

It will also be the common subset of native types and AWT widgets that exists between CDC and J2SE. The CDC testing has been pretty much brute force when more finesse is needed.

The "test-trimmer" and "widget-hound" features will be there and working.

Right now we are debating between letting the Apple version out without the GUI engine support or wait until the problem is fixed and include the GUI engine support...

Pre-Christmas gift!!

Well, the GUI testing engine (inside the eclipse plug-in) still does not work in Mac OS X. Despite upgrading to DP1. I guess the SWT/AWT compatibility has some more tweaking ahead.

On the brighter side, I am finishing wiring what I call "the gardener": code changes, method signatures change, methods are deleted. The gardener takes care of this by keeping the tests up to date with the real code.

I am still shooting to get a GUI engine up and running for Christmas :-}

Not so fast son!!

Well, the swt/awt/apple problems are not solved with the compatibility library released by apple. Eclipse keeps on crashing and when it does not crash the AWT/Swing widgets-under-test miss events or get them too late.

I know the problem is not the gui-engine logic because it delivers the events orderly and timely on other widget types (SWT, ...)

So DevRiot will not support GUI automation on Apple for now. It will support the unit testing automation which runs good.

Who wants to get in the middle of the fight of this two? Not us :-}